Thread:Ralok/@comment-804628-20120423024504/@comment-804628-20120424043449

You're right. In fact in the TCoR movie, if that is what you were talking about, there is even a mention of the surgical alteration in the director's cut pop up extras. And there are so many little illogics that have to be fitted in to make the retconned version work with established canon that I just want to pull my hair out when people get dogmatic about it - seriously? The man who honestly tells you he hasn't decided if he's going to betray you or not lies about something as inconsequential as where he got his eyeshine??? He makes up a totally fictitious story in his head about a totally separate prison to explain something that just happened???? Why not just convince himself Pope Joe(?) did it? Why make up something about Ursa Luna light years away? yeah. right... I can see why that scene got scrapped. Wish the whole idea had.

But because this is a wiki accessible to all fans, and there's enough people out there who want to buy into this, I would definitely put in both versions... otherwise some later contributor may want to change it to the reconned version. But I don't even think you need the vague language. Put in the original origin - with all its sundried links to canon sources (think there is like 6 or more?), and then if the wimpy little retcoon is mentioned below the original its own little sub-note, they'll have no reason to complain. This it where _I_ throw in the vague language - hehe - "Since the release of Butcher Bay, some people have retcooned the origin of Riddick's eyeshine based on events in the game..." Some, but certainly not all... and if that is the direction you're going, then technology would probably be the best place for it.

I actually appreciated the way LordTJ did it. From what he originally told me, he was one that had jumped on the retcoon wagon, but his eyeshine entry separated them into original and the alteration - and the original got top billing because it came first which worked well for me ;) If you did it in a similar fashion, you could also probably add your suppositions regarding the 'pink light' aspect as a follow-up to the retcoon section - I think you have enough info to back it up and offer it as a theory. And it does help bridge the two for those who care.

But LordTJ had other pages that were just sheer speculation, and that's one thing I don't like. Making it up for my stories is one thing, but for a 'fact' based wiki? That's something different. If there's some fact, state it, and say where you found it. It it's a mystery (like what, exactly, is an Alpha Furyan? - I seriously don't think it the one who gets to eat first *rolls eyes* - Vin Diesel made a comment that might equate it to being king, but to my knowledge, it's never been explained), state it. More info may show up later.

But now who's getting dogmatic - lol. I know I can come across pretty strong in my opinions sometimes, but I also know they are just that... opinions.